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good points, wonder if perhaps there is something to be gained by contrasting mr. Newton to female counterpart like Ellen Von Unwerth? [ http://www.staleywise.com/collection/von_unwerth_revenge/von_unwerth_revenge.html ]

The more I hear about 'Newton's women', 'these creatures','errant queens','aristocracy', the more clear it seems that this mystery, awe and fear is the masochistic discharge of a suppressed will to control and attack: everyone knows that the creepiest, most oppressive lover, and the one most likely to transform into an abuser once yielded to, is the hideously fawning, feverish worshipper.

He made images 'for' women : The primary consumers of Slimfast are women too, that doesn't signify anything about the product. Men making images of women 'for' women is surely precisely the point at issue. Fashion photography 'for' women is at least partly a mechanism for the reproduction of an assemblage of image/desire ultimately benefiting male power, whether understood as micropolitical power dispersed through the socius or political/commercial power concentrated in the hands of the media/medical/cosmetic/pharmaceutical industrialist.

It's not germane whether 'the cruelties and privations they impose on their bodies' (whose invocation you so relish) are done 'for the sake of men': intention is both irrelevant and impossible to determine - it's rather whether these desiring-technologies are depotentiating, disempowering, humiliating traditions - in the case of buying shoes in which one is unable to walk, there would seem to be a pretty straightforward answer...(incidentally your aside here seems a mere gnomic reiteration rather than an argument)

Ultimately, I don't think you'll convince me...it all seems a banal, faintly embarrassing anachronism to me, belonging in the dustbin of misogynist history along with peter stringfellow, james bond films and pirelli calendars; not in the least radical.

Undercurrent makes the point that it's men who have the "desire" for images of contorted beauty, and women who undergo/impose on themselves the "cruelties and privations" . . . . That male desire is misogynistic. This is true, at least in many cases, but I'm not sure if misogynistic desires can be changed or reformed by any program of criticism, by "peeks into an alternative universe." I think that what we all desire, and perhaps men in particular, is determined by the time we attain puberty. Some of us have healthy desires, such that we can establish, supposedly, a fully developed relationship with another person. Others incline toward various kinds and degrees of "fetish," desire mis-directed away from the soul or inner beauty of the other, the woman, to the ways she transforms herself, damages herself, twists herself. For in so transforming herself, hurting and injuring herself, she works a magic, casts a spell over the male, who is a perpetual child, a stunted creature, unable to progress beyond his unnatural desires to experience love . . . . This is the dynamic. It's the modern state of affairs, as opposed to the ancient, at least according to the school books

Which is to say desire is highly irrational, destructive. Bad for the subject, and bad for the object. It imperils health, distorts the development of personality . . . . Yet without desire, there'd be no pleasure in life

Or rather, I take this to be the anti-Hegelian view on the nature and unfolding of desire = Bataille/Ballard. O/w, I suppose my comments would appear irrelevant, if not cracked out.

nb. This reply was better in its first and second versions, before your crappy comments box timed out !!

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with anything dominic says here, or say that it's irrelevant; nor would I argue that with a bit of critique the power-discrepancies of millenia will crumble. In fact it's incredibly difficult to break through this programming even on an individual level, but that doesn't mean it's not worth doing: So, my problem is with statements like 'desire is unhealthy' being presented so glibly, as eternal platitudes rather than cultural contingencies (no matter how deeply-imprinted); as gleeful proclamations, even. As if there's only one, eternally-determined 'desire' ('this is THE dynamic'), that must be 'celebrated'.

Essentially all Newton does is to add an exciting sheen on banal gender roles (in a nutshell, that is fashion photography defined). And an artist who merely repeats and confirms, rather than interrogates and critiques, can only be regarded as futuristic and radical if you believe the future has nothing to offer but more of the same (baudrillardian cynicism - incidentally baudrillard is another who repeatedly offers us a theoretically-glamorised - and sometimes not even that - version of traditional misogyny).

Someone such as Rego can effect transformations of individual's perceptions, surely a basis for cultural change (yes, those 'little peeks into alternative universes' do make a difference - I'm surprised a reader of k-punk, blissblog et al would find this controversial); Newton is incapable of providing these transformations, and has no interest in doing so.

Especially these days.

pedantic bastard. I told you it was the third time of typing!